Going Big for Adopting Greyhounds in Florida

I ame the proud caretaker of a 7 year old Greyhound. His real name is RedSmoke Tom. As it turns out he had no interest in getting tnto the starting gate so he was put up for adoption before he raced even one time. Tom is the most wonderful dog on the planet. He was very shy at first, but as the years went by, he has become very affectionate. Tom has a buddy whom I adopted about a year after I got Tom. His budd is a black Lab named Bear. Tom was so tolerant of Bear when he was a puppy. He let Bear nip at his hind legs and never snapped back. Today both Tom and Bear sleep in my bed every night. Tom likes to take over and spread out, but he's easy to move. I consider myself blessed to be the caretaker of these dogs. Tom still has all his "equipment" and I'd love to breed him to get a "son". Anyone interested, please contact me..

Dog-gone-it! Looks like you guys came up a little short. Oh well, better for the kids in Haiti to have text books than Carey and Christine pocketing a little extra cash.

I think it's sad, BJackson, that the dog racing industry would oppose this effort to promote greyhound adoption.

You know what Obama calls greyhounds?.....Fast food.

You know what Obama calls greyhounds?.....Fast food.

You know what Obama calls greyhounds?.....Fast food.

I don't know Carey. Maybe she knows that so much of the G2K cash ends up in your pockets. God know that you don't spend it on the dogs ... unless you're still gambling.

You must be joking Wayne. So a few days ago GREY2K USA was secretly an anti-gambling organization, and now today I'm a gambler? Do you even care that the nonsense you are circulating is false?

Never said anything about Grey2k and anti-gambling. I've heard about your struggles with a gambling addiction in the past.

Like most of everything else you have posted here, Wayne, that is simply not true.

This is a project that is long overdue. Florida is the last vestige of greyhound hound racing in the US - and it needs to end!! If we can defeat the industry in Florida I think we will effectively end dog racing in the US.

The end, is inevitable. I too welcome its predictable demise.

I hope we in Arizona also eventually consign this 'sport' to the trash heap of history. We have one of the worst tracks in the country - Tucson Greyhound Park, which is in violation of an ordinance that voters here passed, but which the South Tucson Police Department is too feeble to enforce.

Hopefully the AZ legislature will pass the bill making its way through the legislative process, and Gov. Brewer will sign it, and allow the reduction and eventual elimination of racing at Tucson Greyhound Park. Even the racing community recognizes TGP as one of the worst tracks in the country.

I do not look forward to the end of Greyhound racing for it will be the end of Greyhounds. They will become another poorly bred breed with all the diseases that indiscriminate breeding brings. Soon they will no longer be recognizable as the pure Greyhounds we love and enjoy today. Read about what has happened to the German Shepard. It's a warning to Greyhound owners. Instead we need to work to make racing safe for the hounds (they do love to run) and ensure that they have happy homes in retirement. No, I don't work for a track or a breeder. I live in NY (no tracks) but I do have two Florida bred hounds. I would hate to see future Greys become some dumbed down shell with hip displaysia like other tragic breeds.

This is a wonderful idea especially in Florida where racing dogs continues to be a betting sport. I think we can change people's ideas, wake them up the whole picture of what goes on, and billboards, along with a concerted educational outreach will make a difference for the dogs we love.

Thanks for your support anniesw!

This is a wonderful idea especially in Florida where racing dogs continues to be a betting sport. I think we can change people's ideas, wake them up the whole picture of what goes on, and billboards, along with a concerted educational outreach will make a difference for the dogs we love.

I just cannot believe this is still allowed to go on, this must stop!!! As a greyhound advicate I am so thankful to Grey2K for doing everything they can for these dogs!!!!

Please put an end to dog racing in the United States. You have to see how the greyhounds are treated...it is disgusting. Who could treat a beautiful animal like this, I do not know?

I am from Czech Republik and I have already adopted my sweet Greyhound Dolly from Ireland. It was the best decision what I did, because she is the sweetest sweetheart in whole the world! I can recomend the adoptions to everybody, because so kind, nice and appreciating animals I have not seen never in my life!!!

Thanks for adopting denymon!

Go Grey2k USA!!! I live in Boston where they started and I know how hard they worked to get rid of the tracks here. It was a long haul requiring two different ballot drives and elections. Greyhounds lost the first one by a gut wrenching 1%! But the second election some years later was no contest, as I remember it. Bless them for continuing their work around the country. It's a slow but steady drive, and when they're finished, there will no longer be any of these brutal tracks left. Good riddance! And I don't believe anyone on this site who is here to personally criticize Theil or Dorchak is legitimate. They're not even worth answering. Feel free to keep pasting my comments after every one of their dishonest posts.

Well said bimbalina. Thanks for your support!

Come on everyone! We really need to get these up so people in and driving through can see what's going on. Let's support this and save these lovely dogs....after all, dogs can't vote...they have no fingers...let's be their fingers!!

Thanks for your support paintorsegal!

Go Grey! Hector and Cleo thank you!

Thanks for your support ossa50!

great idea,fantastic way to raise pubic awareness of the plight of the greyhounds & how they make such wonderful pets

Thanks for your support inuksuk!

Once we stop this practice in Florida, we can probably stop it anywhere else- let's do this!

All of this banter back and forth...we could have saved another Greyhound in the time wasted.

Let's hope greyhound racing ends soon everywhere.

Let's hope greyhound racing ends soon everywhere.

Come on everyone! We really need to get these up so people in and driving through can see what's going on. Let's support this and save these lovely dogs....after all, dogs can't vote...they have no fingers...let's be their fingers!!

Go Grey! Hector and Cleo thank you!

Go Grey! Hector and Cleo thank you!

I've only read half the comments, I had to give up on them because I'm sick to death of idiots going off the point and rambling about nothing. From what I can see it doesn't matter a toss whether someone is for or against gambling. What does it matter? The point is that greyhound racing is a cruel pastime, with dogs being slaughtered when they don't run fast enough. If only one dog is injured and loses its life, then that is one too many. Let's make no mistake about it, everyone involved in greyhound racing is interested in one thing only, and that is the money they make out of misery. Yes greyhounds love to run, but not on a racetrack. They love to run on the beach, in the park or countryside, with people who love and cherish them, not some money grubbing idiot who doesn't care whether the animals live or die as long as they make themselves a nice little earner. Even if dogs were kept in decent surroundings, are you telling me that it's a good life being locked up for 23 hours a day? I've seen many an undercover video of the miserable conditions these majestic animals are forced to endure. I don't give a damn if someone wants to waste their money gambling, let them. But gamble on anything that doesn't involve animals.

Is this a joke? Grey2k USA has said many times that greyhound adoption is not their "problem". They are not concerned with the welfare of retired racing greyhounds. They are an anti-gambling lobby group.

The dog racing supporter who is using my name is completely wrong. GREY2K USA supports greyhound adoption in many ways. We make adoption referrals to non-profit groups all over the country. We also make dozens of grants to adoption groups to support their efforts.

April is Adopt-A-Greyhound Month. Please go to www.GREY2KUSAEDU.org to find a greyhound rescue group near you!

Grey2k USA Education - Another enterprise owned by the husband and wife team Christine Dorchak and Cary Theil. Remember, more than 23% of every dollar "donated" ends up in their pockets. Not to mention legal fees paid to Dorchak, as well as other "miscellaneous expenses". Visit grey2klies.blogspot.com for more information about this radical animal rights group.

Regarding your Boston trolley "accident" - Why does the police report mention witnesses who stated that you "jumped in front of the trolley"? Are you lying about that incident? The police report also made no mention of a dog present. We're you lying about that as well?

Thanks Will, for showing the entire world what kind of person you are.

Carey, people just want to know the truth. Your wife uses this "heart-breaking", "life-changing" incident to further her agenda. People have the right to question her motives. You and your wife, Christine Dorchak are not above the truth. Deal with it, little man.

You have no shame, Will. I hope that you never have to endure the kind of personal trauma that day that Christine did. But fine, if you really want to drag her through the mud, we can talk about the day she almost died. First of all, the report does not mention "witnesses" who claimed that she "jumped in front of the trolley." That is a lie. The report refers to ONE witness who said he did not see the accident, but "felt" that Christine must have jumped into the train. That witness ... was the driver, who was at risk of losing his job. According to his own account, he did not see the accident and his vague claim about what he "felt" is not supported by any other witnesses. Regarding the dog that almost died that day, I lived with that dog for years and can assure you she lived, and was struck by a train that day. This kind of personal attack is the lowest of the low. You really should be ashamed of yourself.

No Carey, I'm afraid you're wrong. The police report does not mention that the driver did not see the accident. You are incorrect. It claims he saw the white female walking inbound on Commonwealth, and he felt she must have ran or jumped into the path of the train. The report never mentions that he was in fear of losing his job. I think that must be an assumption on your part. As far as a dog being there, I'm pretty sure the police would have mentioned it. I think you're probably wrong about that. But,it sounds good when you're asking people for money, right?

You are a piece of work, Will. The dog I lived with for years, now apparently didn't exist. Of course, none of this has anything to do with greyhound racing, or with the greyhound adoption proposal people are voting on here. It is a personal attack based on a 1992 accident in which our President nearly lost her life. I know what you are doing, though. This is a diversionary tactic. You would rather not talk about the life of confinement greyhounds endure, or the injuries they suffer, so you are trying to divert attention from the issue at hand by attacking anyone associated with GREY2K USA. This might make you feel better, but it won't work.

I'm just trying to expose Grey2k USA for what it really is. An anti-gambling lobby and radical animal rights group. Grey2k USA is aligned with HSUS, PeTA and perhaps ALF. Grey2k USA tactics involve lies and misrepresentations about the industry. People need to know the truth about you and your wife. Keep cashing those checks while they're still coming in. People are starting to see Grey2k USA for the dirty little scam that it is.

GREY2K USA has no position on gambling, Will. We provide the public with information that comes from the dog racing industry itself, and ask them to make humane choices. In this case, we think people should adopt as many greyhounds as possible, and are hoping to add these billboards to our ongoing efforts to promote greyhound adoption. Greyhounds make wonderful pets. In fact, my adopted greyhound Zoe just turned ten years old a few days ago, and is the light of my life.

Better, find a greyhound adoption group since most greyhounds don't need to be rescued -- except maybe your poor dog who you take out on the streets of Boston and then lay her leash down and turn your back. Shame on you.

Wrong C.Theil. Grey2k USA does absolutely nothing for greyhound adoption. You and your wife are simply a lobby group that collects money to try and end a legal activity. Grey2k lies and misrepresents facts so that they can continue to collect money from unsuspecting donors.

Will speaks the truth.

Once again, the notion that we don't support greyhound adoption is absolute nonsense. Do you even realize where you are posting this false claim?

Grey2K without reservation supports adoption from all the work I've seen them do first hand. Its just that one-eyed racing enthusiasts who know that the end is coming grasp desperately at straws when they need to show some maturity, alongside some human decency in this case, and face facts. Racing is going, going.. Wait, listen?

OK, we've boiled it down to just the links people need to see regarding Grey racing. Keeping in mind that these videos are all supplied by the TRACKS makes it more instructive as to who is speaking truth. The racing backers will continue to attack Grey2KUSA.org because Grey2KUSA.org has been the single greatest force for the Greyhounds over the last decade. Grey2KUSA.org would never have accomplished this much without the firm support of thousands of people who have been dedicated to the Greys for many, many years, but their legal expertise has multiplied the efforts of all of us, and the industry hates grey2KUSA.org because of that fact. In fact, that hatred is a badge of honor, worn with pride by we Greyhound supporters, that the racing industry KNOWS it is dying instead of the Greys, and Greys are suffering less and less with each track closed. Let’s start here. I can’t even watch this one, again. You can see the fear in the poor puppy’s eyes. He’s been listening to all his sisters and brothers screaming when they were tattooed, so he is already scared. His anticipatory fear simply amplifies the pain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AndNefxlJw And it only gets worse from there. So, EVERY TIME someone tells you how “innocent” Grey racing is, or how much “Greyhounds love to run,” ask them, “How much do Greyhounds love to run at racetracks?” As well, ask them “How much did the Greyhound looking right (in the middle of this clip from GreytExploitations.com) love hearing a racemate scream in agony, before watching it snap its neck? http://greytexploitations.com/awareness-videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yR9c4vEbJI&feature=related http://www.greyhounds.org/gpl/contents/media_cases.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tLAtBG__bY ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZjzY3COods http://www.greyhounds.org/gpl/contents/media_cases.html http://planetgreyhound.com/2011/11/19/greyhound-racing-beyond-the-track/ http://www.greyhounds.org/gpl/contents/media_cases.html http://planetgreyhound.com/tag/greyhound-abuse/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33ONJruz7IY&feature=related http://www.grey2kusa.org/newsvideo/?gclid=CMDykemI7a4CFSoGRQodpTyuKA

I have adopted 2 greyhounds and I worked with Grey2k as a volunteer during and after the Mass. vote to ban racing. They are a legitimate organization that works hard to protect and support the dogs. After spending many hours in their office during the time I volunteered I saw first hand how hard Christine and Carey work. I don't know who you are but I am disgusted that you would use someone's accident to promote your own agenda. It would be better if you would simply state honestly who you are, who you work for, and what your real agenda is.

If Grey2K makes so many "grants to adoption groups to support their efforts", why have they not been reported to the IRS on the Grey2K 990 Form? They should be reported under "Expenses", Line 13-Grants and similar amounts paid (Part IX, Col A, Lines 1-3). Line 13 has an entry of $0.00. In looking at page 10, which is where Part IX is found, Line 1 (grants & other assistance to governments and organizations in the US) - $0.00; Line 2 (grants & other assistance to individuals in the US) - $0.00; and Line 3 (grants & other assistance to governments, organizations and individuals outside the US) - $0.00. That sure is a lot of grant money your divvying out... NOT! Not a single dime goes to providing direct assistance to greyhounds or to the adoption groups which place the dogs into homes. However, you & your wife, Christine Dorchak, take a salary right off the top of all those donations, which amounted to $337,325 in 2010, that Grey2K receives from the public & HSUS. The more money that comes in in donations, the higher your salaries as you take a percentage of around 23% in salary. Unless, you are considering your salary as a grant. This information is public record. All one has to do is look at the Grey2K 990 Form which is available on GuideStar.

You're looking at the wrong forms, Elaine. Charitable donations to adoption groups are made by the GREY2K USA Education Fund. As for our salaries, the suggestion that we pay employees a percentage of what we raise is completely nonsense. This is one of the many myths that greyhound breeders like yourself have been circulating in recent months,and has absolutely no basis in reality. The fact is, the salary figures you are quoting are for the entire organization, not two employees. Further, I personally make less than the average American salary. I do not own a home, nor do I own a car. As for Christine Dorchak, she receives no compensation whatsoever from GREY2K USA or the GREY2K USA Education Fund beyond her salary. This is another myth you have been circulating, and is similarly false. Like me, her salary is below the average American salary, despite the fact that she has a law degree. It's sad that greyhound breeders would spread these myths and falsehoods about our work, but it's not surprising. The cruelty of greyhound racing is disappearing, and you are angry about it.

I think its great that these wonderful greyhound advocates can focus on exposing this industry full time, and the model of actually sustaining oneself in doing so is a benchmark that activists the world over should aspire to. Still I suppose you're not in the racing game for the money then Elaine? I don't suppose you've ever earned money from exploiting these wonderful animals? In fact the only people who make such awful statements and frequently unfounded claims against grey2k are people who stand to gain from killing greyhounds to benefit gamblers. People back grey2k willingly. I guess that gives you trouble sleeping at night? Not I. I back this organisation without reservation, and I hope readers do too. If you love animals its a no-brainer. Animals are here with us not for us. Greyhounds deserve the same protection as any other companion animal. Animal rights begins with mans best friend.

Upon investigating the quote from Carey Theil that, "I personally make less than the average American salary" it was found that in 2010 the median US wage (salary) was $26,363. According to the 990 form for 2010, Carey's salary was $39,600. The median wage figure was taken from a government report issued by the Social Security Administration titled, Wage Statistics for 2010, dated April 8, 2012. http://www.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/netcomp.cgi?year=2010

You do understand the difference between average and median, don't you? For the average American salary, see the Social Security Administration National Wage Index. it is on line at http://www.ssa.gov/oact/COLA/AWI.html. Or you can use this study from a few years ago, which indicated an even higher average American: http://www.alternet.org/economy/67723

Yes,Carey, I understand the difference between average & median. The median income is considered more accurate in discussions of this sort because the mean or average income is about 40% higher due to e a lot of high income earners (Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, Larry Ellison, and the two Kochs) that bring the average up. The median, OTOH, is the middle value at which one would arrive if all the salaries in the USA were lined up from highest to lowest. So, depending upon what point you are trying to get across, you would select the appropriate value. If you want to make yourself look poor to others, you use the average. If you want an accurate reflection of your salary in comparison to the rest of the country, you use the median. You do want to paint an accurate picture, don't you?

I'm not sure why you are responding to a comment by someone else, as if it were your own, "Helen." But I'll answer you anyway. I said that I make less than the average American salary. That is true. If you would rather use "median" salary as a guide, then we can do that. The fact is, I earn nearly 40% less than the median salary for Executive Directors of non-profit organizations. See http://www.payscale.com/research/US/People_who_are_Directors_of_Non-Profit_Organizations/Salary

How arrogant to believe you are the only person with the last name, Theil. Sheesh!

You are incredibly arrogant to keep assailing the protectors of Greyhounds in an attempt to continue the destructive industry of Grey racing. Stay on topic, or go home to your miserable cruelty.

You only make referrals to a small group of groups who drink your Koolade!

So now you acknowledge that we make greyhound adoption referrals. Thanks for acknowledging that part of our work. You are wrong, though, that there is any kind of litmus test for our adoption referrals. Unlike the dog racing industry, we believe that adoption should not be politicized.

Yes, and referrals are not direct placements. Grey2K does NOT place greyhounds into homes.

We are not an adoption group, Elaine. We work to pass greyhound protection laws and phase out dog racing. We do, however, promote greyhound adoption. We make referrals to greyhound adoption groups across the country. We also make donations to greyhound adoption groups to support their work.

Only your Cronies, Carey.

This is also not true. I'm not sure how an adoption group would be a "cronie" (that is misspelled, by the way) but whatever it means it isn't true. The adoption groups on our referral page are groups that asked to be on the page. That's it. Thanks, though, for acknowledging our adoption referral program. If anyone is interested in adopting, it is a great resource. Go to http://www.grey2kusa.org/action/adopt.html

You never stop do you "NotGrey2K" ???? Coments like "You only make referrals to a small group of groups who drink your Koolade!" - that only show everyone else on this discussion board that you are incapable of carrying on a adult conversation, you always have to go back to your childish behavior or your temper tantrums to get your messages across. But by doing that you only sound totally out of touch with reality!!!!! Close the fanasty world you are living in about the racing industry and come back to the real world of the living where sometimes it is dark and ugly just like greyhound racing is or if you are unable to do that PLEASE stay alone or with your other track supporters in that fanasty world of yours and keep quiet. My mind is spinning thinking about the crap you believe, I am sure in some way you are a good and decent person but on this issue you have no idea what the Hell you are talking about and that is what scares me. Your bullshit is only going to cause more harm to our greyhounds.

He is probably your relative and found out what G2K really is.....and it ISN'T for the dogs. Go W. Theil!!!

It is obvious that you care nothing about these animals who are abused for the sport and entertainment of people such as yourselves. If you were a true advocate, you would be referring us to other greyhound groups who you truly do feel help the animals. But no, you are not advocating for the dogs, you are attacking the group. There is money to be made from greyhound racing so you either are a compulsive gambler, a track owner or a breeder. Be honest, which is it!

Go W. Theil!!! I bet W Theil is your long lost relative, C Theil, he knows what you and your wifey are and AREN'T doing for the greyhounds! Keep up the good work W. Theil!!!

Simple truth - some family members can be misguided or totally whacked, just because "W. Theil" has the same name means nothing. If they are related I can feel "CTheil's" pain - I too have relatives I would rather say were not related to me but we cannot pick out our relatives nor can we direct their judgements in the ight direction. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I guess from the comments here "W. Theil" doesn't seem to agree with the majority on this message board fighting for the greyhounds. To that I say we all make our own choices, right or wrong - if you make those choices you alone have to live with those choices even if later you find out you make a really bad decision. Apparently "W. Theil" supports the cruel and brutal racing industry - others do not. Again slamming people with comments as yours and I quote "Go W. Theil!!! I bet W Theil is your long lost relative, C Theil, he knows what you and your wifey are and AREN'T doing for the greyhounds! Keep up the good work W. Theil!!!" - PLEASE do not stoop to the level of others on this board where if you cannot get your message across and get people to agree to your views and opinions you have to get nasty with your coments and act childish!!!!!

That is simply not true, document-ably irrefutably not true -- but you will continue to say it is true until you're blue in the face thinking that some people will believe you and continue to make donations. Shame on you.

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To all those who wonder about Greyhound racing, and to those who take the morally reprehensible position that Grey racing should be legal: Ignoring all of the evidence proving that Greys suffer in innumerable (look it up) ways at racetracks does not make it go away, from malnourishment (including feeding them 4D meat (the meat from dying and "downer" cows)), to debilitating injuries, to premature deaths. If ANYONE believes the Grey racing proponents here, or anywhere else, venture forth. Just a few, minimal examples are right here. Of course, these don't fit the Greyhound Racing Association of America talking points, do they? Just so EVERYONE reading this knows the malice and ill-will cavalierly thrown about by these imposters who pretend that track racing is good for Greys, let's have a look at these vids and articles, and then see who the liars REALLY are, shall we? Look it up telling the truth Let’s start here. I can’t even watch this one, again. You can see the fear in the poor puppy’s eyes. He’s been listening to all his sisters and brothers screaming when they were tattooed, so he is already scared. His anticipatory fear simply amplifies the pain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AndNefxlJw And it only gets worse from there. So, EVERY TIME someone tells you how “innocent” Grey racing is, or how much “Greyhounds love to run,” ask them, “How much do Greyhounds love to run at racetracks?” As well, ask them “How much did the Greyhound looking right (in the middle of this clip from GreytExploitations.com) love hearing a racemate scream in agony, before watching it snap its neck? http://greytexploitations.com/awareness-videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yR9c4vEbJI&feature=related http://www.greyhounds.org/gpl/contents/media_cases.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tLAtBG__bY ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZjzY3COods http://www.greyhounds.org/gpl/contents/media_cases.html http://planetgreyhound.com/2011/11/19/greyhound-racing-beyond-the-track/ http://www.greyhounds.org/gpl/contents/media_cases.html http://planetgreyhound.com/tag/greyhound-abuse/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33ONJruz7IY&feature=related http://www.grey2kusa.org/newsvideo/?gclid=CMDykemI7a4CFSoGRQodpTyuKA Hmmm...any questions? A Faustian Bargain (This portion is regarding the racing industry's propoganda(lies) that Grey2KUSA.org actually makes up the numbers used to report on deaths and injuries at Grey racetracks. We are speaking directly to the racing industry, as they are keen to make up lies to make their immoral industry more palatable to moral and conscientious people.) As for Grey2KUSA.org, they ACTUALLY get the numbers directly from the tracks themselves when tracks report them to the states, as required by law in some states. So, Grey2KUSA.org’s numbers are as far from made up as your claims of the innocence of Grey racing is from the truth. As you said (as a racing supporter), when someone (you) gets their numbers from a skewed source... Do you Grey racing supporters EVER read this stuff through before posting it? My word, Swiss cheese can only DREAM of having so many holes! As for Greyhound Pets, Inc., I feel they are a great group. They have wonderful things for one particular Grey who holds the most special place in my heart. However, they are "neutral" on racing in a Faustian Bargain, because most tracks REFUSE TO ADOPT OUT TO GROUPS WHO OPENLY OPPOSE GREY RACING! Therefore, no matter how vile they find racing (and they DO find it vile!), they agree to not speak ill of the tracks because the tracks will then go back to killing ALL the Greys, instead of adopting some out. A Faustian Bargain, definitely, but it saves thousands of Greys from the horrible deaths you otherwise give them. I have to ask, do you tear their ears off before or after you murder them? (for new readers, the Greyhound racing industry tears the ears off of the former racers before they dump them in mass graves, which may be by the roadside, because they have to remove the ears because of the identifying tattoos shown in clip number , above.). There are clips of dead Greys who have had their ears torn off, as well, in the above clips, so don’t for a minute think you can call this fact a “lie”, or “propaganda”, and all the usual tactics you employ. As well, don't even THINK of saying these are coyotes or foxes, as some have tried before. Different noses, different heads, and different fur. As well, there are vids ALL OVER the internet. How dim-witted does one have to be to think that people have not ALREADY gone to the web to check out these vids and articles on Grey abuse, neglect, and death? O.K., well, then, here YOU go, because maybe you are just that dim-witted, and need to see it for yourselves: Ignoring all of the evidence to prove that Greys at racetracks suffer in innumerable (look it up) ways, from malnourishment, to debilitating injuries, to premature deaths, does not make it go away. If ANYONE believes the Grey racing proponents here, or anywhere else, venture forth. Just a few, minimal examples are right here. Of course, those don't fit the Greyhound Racing Association of America mantra, do they. Just so EVERYONE reading this knows the malice and ill-will cavalierly thrown about by these imposters who pretend that track racing is good for Greys, have another look at these vids and articles, and then see who the liars REALLY are. You can go online and find innumerable videos and articles on the abuse on Greyhounds at the tracks, and the thousands of Greys bred to produce a few hundred “acceptable” (read: money-maker) racers.

KUDOS a thosand times over "JoeyTWunderhundt" - your comment is wonderful and so full of the real facts!!!! Thank you for standing your ground and for trying to set these "track supporters" straight but from what I have read so far on this board that is impossible, they have only one way of thinking - they are right - we are wrong and if you do not or chose not to agree with them they start with the nasty comments, childish behavior and the temper tantrums!!!! After all if greyhound racing stops and the tracks close than "NotGrey2K" will not be able to adopt a retired racer. As he said in many previous comments he would rather see a waiting list of greyhounds available for adoption than to see them become extinct so no one could adopt them. But what "NotGrey2K" forgot to mention is if there are not enough greyhound adoption groups that can handle all the greyhounds bred for this cruel and brutal sport they DIE, I guess in "NotGrey2K's" fanasty world all the greyhounds are housed in wonderful clean kennels and can sit around and wait as long as needed once they stop racing until their adopter family comes by and the track owners are all so willing to take such good care of them. "NotGrey2K" is so far out of reality I am sure he believes that donkeys can fly or maybe there is little green man on Mars. He believes alot of crap and even though the facts are there he along with so many other "track supporters" prefer the fanasty world they live in over real life!!!! But again I have to say THANK YOU for your comment - it was so rewarding reading it and seeing all the facts you listed as other greyhound lovers and supporters all ready know.

This is a made up quote, and you know it. Do you have any boundaries whatsoever?

'They are not concerned with the welfare of retired racing greyhounds. They are an anti-gambling lobby group.' Why would an 'anti-gambling lobby' not be concerned with the welfare of retired greyhounds? Isn't it the point that their fantastic work IS FOR greyhounds. (doesn't need a question mark) I adopted my 1st greyhound 16 years ago because of learning of their treatment/plight. Awareness lead me to adopt, and has done ever since.

You are so right. If they were concerned about the dogs, they would have pushed for protections in the Florida bills--which there were none. That's because they only care about stopping greyhound racing.

The comment you are responding to if from someone who supports our (in their words) "fantastic work." So I'm glad you agree that this commenter is right!

Just as there were no protections for the displaced greyhounds in Massachusetts. Even a staunch Grey2K supporter, Louise Coleman, admits "that the measure might not have had a lot of foresight – especially when it came to providing for the consequences of removing a long-time industry from the state." (printed in the Revere Times article, Where Have All the Racing Dogs Gone, Oct 6, 2010) Ms. Coleman also wonders in the same article, "“If greyhound racing goes all over the country, who is going to breed greyhounds?” asked Coleman. “The adoption movement has created a real demand for these dogs and people want them. The worst-case scenario is that the puppy mills would take them over. Maybe it’s just me, but it doesn’t seem like there’s a lot of planning in this process.”" To read the article in its entirety, please visit, http://tinyurl.com/868h5rj

Ah yes, yet another myth. According to state records, a total of 781 greyhounds were adopted in Massachusetts during the final year of dog racing. That was the highest number on record. Meanwhile, during the same period only 11 dogs died or were euthanized, all from racing injuries. The fact is, when dog racing ended in Massachusetts the overwhelming majority of greyhounds found homes. This is a scare tactic that once again, has absolutely no basis in fact.

The agreement was only in the part where you all are an anti-gambling lobbying group.

Well that simply isn't true. As I have said about five other times here, GREY2K USA has no position on gambling. Please refer to other comments.

'That's because they only care about stopping greyhound racing.'....... and why do you think they care about stopping greyhound racing(again no question mark needed).

Grey2K USA is believed to be more of an anti-gambling group because: 1) the Rev. Thomas Grey, who is another Grey2K USA Board of Director, heads the National Coalition Against Gambling Expansion and he is the Senior Advisor for Stop Predatory Gambling. 2) In addition to the Rev. Grey, Carey Theil serves on the BOD for Stop Predatory Gambling. 3) The MA law re: dog racing, as worded, sounds as if it does NOT prohibit greyhound dog racing; it prohibits any dog racing or racing meeting in Massachusetts where any form of betting or wagering on the speed or ability of dogs occurs. 4) From the Raynham Call on May 4, 2011, "Dorchak said the ballot law banned wagering on dog racing “where any form of betting or wagering on the speed or ability of dogs occurs.” They sound like anti-gambling measures. It also sounds as if it is legal to hold greyhound racing in MA as long as there is no pari-mutuel wagering. However, I am neither an attorney versed in MA laws & politics nor do I play one on TV. Read more: Dog racing opponents want simulcasting at Raynham track cut off - Raynham, MA - Raynham Call http://www.wickedlocal.com/raynham/topstories/x549610172/Dog-racing-opponents-want-simulcasting-at-Raynham-track-cut-off#ixzz1rQrDS7GZ

You can believe whatever you want. If you want to believe the fiction that GREY2K USA is an anti-gambling organization, you are free to believe that. It simply isn't true, though. We are a national non-profit organization that works to pass laws to protect greyhounds and phase out dog racing.

OHMYGOD!! Will you people STOP using every greyhound topic on the web to bitch and moan about Grey2k? Grow up and find something productive to do with your life. I, for one, am sick of it!

Spira9--YOU go get a life yourself. You have contributed nothing constructive to this discussion. Crawl back under where you came from, please.

One again "NotGrey2K" if you do not like someone else's opinion you go right back to your childish behavior...........unbelieveable!!!! I seem to recall you telling me "we are all entitled to our opinions" - well, "Spira9" voices her opinion and you tell her and I quote "Spira9--YOU go get a life yourself. You have contributed nothing constructive to this discussion. Crawl back under where you came from, please" - as far as I can see you have NOT contributed anything constructive to this discussion either. All I see is bullshit and more bullshit from you with alittle nasty temper tantrum thrown in. If you can dish it out than you DAMN WELL BETTER BE PREPARED TO GET IT BACK!!!!

Perhaps, when Grey2K stops bitchin' and moanin' about every item on the internet that shows greyhounds running & racing, i.e., Sketchers, VW, and the most recent one for Absolut vodka. I'm sick & tired of hearing Grey2K!

GREY2K USA did not take a position on the VW or Absolut Vodka advertisements you are referring to. That is false. We opposed the Skechers ad because it was filmed at Tucson Greyhound Park, one of the worst dog tracks in the country. Regarding our work, we will continue speaking out for greyhounds until the cruelty of dog racing ends.

CTheil, obviously you are not up to date on what your Board of Director members are saying then on Grey2K's behalf. Karyn Zoldan states, "The youtube music video for the new Absolut Greyhound vodka promotes animal cruelty in the form of greyhound racing. While slick with a catchy soundtrack by Swedish House Mafia, greyhounds are once again perceived as futuristic exploited racing machines. The video is a deadly cross between Project Runway and Mad Max. Let the cruelty begin!" There's that pesky Board of Director running off at the mouth again... The one of Auschwitz & Skecher's wet dream fame.

Karyn Zoldan does not speak for GREY2K USA. She is an independent voice that has been weighing in on these issues for years.

Karyn Zoldan does not speak for GREY2K USA. She is an independent voice that has been weighing in on these issues for years.

Karyn Zoldan does speak for Grey2k USA. She's on your board of directors. You and your profit-minded wife wife Christine Dorchak selected her to be on your board of directors. So, when a member a your board of directors makes racist and anti-Semitic statements on a Grey2k USA public forum - she is speaking for Grey2k USA.

I'm going to say this one more time, ra144. Karyn Zoldan is not a spokesperson for GREY2K USA. She does not speak for the organization. She is an independent voice that has been weighing in on these issues for years. Further, the comment you are referring to was removed from our Facebook page within minutes because it was a stupid comment. You can continue raising this issue, but the facts don't change.

There a lot of people who agree with the bitchin' and moanin' about depictions of greyhounds being used for entertainment and sport. And I'm sick and tired of hearing from you.

There a lot of people who agree with the bitchin' and moanin' about depictions of greyhounds being used for entertainment and sport. And I'm sick and tired of hearing from you.

You have stated 2 things: 1) Grey2K is an anti-gambling group, and 2) Grey2K is a radical animal rights group. So, which is it? Or do you really have any idea what Grey2K is really about except for the untruths spewed in your blog?

I've noticed that too, lindavb19. They tell themselves so many different myths about our work, they sometimes don't realize that one myths actually contradictory another myth. That is why this tactic is so transparent. They really don't care whether the things they are saying about our work are true or not. Their goal is not to raise legitimate issues, but instead to simply call their detractors as many bad names as possible.

You have contradicted yourself in the blog, Saving Greys. You talk about greyhounds being caged for 20+ hours a day and then you put up a post where they run too much. Which is it? Are they crated too much or do they run too much? Talk about contradiction!

Not at all Elaine. You are referring to state records which prove that greyhounds are routinely raced at Tucson Greyhound Park on only two days of rest. That is a dangerous practice that even many members of the dog racing industry oppose. That is a separate issue from the life of confinement greyhounds endure. At racetracks across the country, greyhounds are kept in individual cages that are about 32" by 34" by 42". They are allowed to relive themselves ("turned out") a few times a day, and otherwise are in their cage. They are confined for up to 22 hours out of every 24 hour day. That is cruel and inhumane. Separate from that issue, greyhound trainers at Tucson Greyhound Park are racing dogs on only two days of rest, a dangerous practice. Those are two distinct problems in the dog racing industry, and raising a concern about both issues is not contradictory in any way.

Grey2K is both anti-gambling and animal rights oriented. Neither is exclusive of the other. As for Karyn Zoldan not speaking for Grey2K, she is on the Grey2K Board of Directors. That position in and of itself puts her in the position as being a voice of Grey2K. So, will Grey2K USA ever offer an apology for Karyn's racist and offensive comments? Or, will Grey2K continue with its policy of ignoring the fact that one of its Board members spouts racist hate speech?

That is just not true Elaine. Karyn Zoldan is not authorized to speak for GREY2K USA, nor is she a spokesperson for the organization. As I said previously, she is an independent voice and has been speaking publicly about these issues for many years. Regarding her comment, it was a stupid statement that was removed from our Facebook page. We remove plenty of comments from our Facebook page because they are not appropriate. By contrast, many of the websites where you talk to other dog racing supporters routinely allow offensive statements. Those comments stay up, they are not removed. In light of the fact that I've never seen you raise an issue with those statements I find your alarm here pretty hard to believe.

I will also say, again, that GREY2K USA has no position on gambling. You are mischaracterizing our work, and you know better. At this point it's pretty clear that are simply trying to defame us, with knowledge that what you are saying is not true.

This is so out of control..I have seen first hand the curely of the track..dogs put out on the far end of the storage facility because that is what it is..a storage facility where dogs are stored like canned food in a cage. My own dog bears the scars on his nose and hip because he was too big for is cage but they stuffed him in one anyway..he was one of the lucky ones..the others left to starve to death without water or food for 5 days because it is cheaper to starve them to death then kill them with a bullet like some who are shot or the ones from mexico that are left out in the desert to die..wake up people..stick to the issue of inhumane treatment of greyhounds because it is inhumane and end horse racing as well..all dog racing is cruel..I left grey hound rescue yesterday..there are 15lucky dogs who need homes and 1500 that did not make it.. I have seen first hand other dogs left to die or left for dead from the track..dont ignore the facts..stick too the facts..dogs die everyday on the track and from human abuse so dont get hung on on some raciest issue for heaven sake and have some compassion for all of man kind stop thinking about your self and do something positive.

"donnaremax" you have stated things perfectly - but sadly trying to talk to those "track supporters" such as "NotGrey2K", "ra144", "W Theil" or "Elaine S" to name a few is totally hopeless!! They all have a vested interest in this cruel so-called sport and they care not how many greyhounds die or how many are straved and tortured or how many actually get adopted. Their agenda is for profit just like the racing industry and they all stick together, to go against the industry would be to take away their paychecks. They have all been out of control for some time now and they have no compassion for the greyhounds because if they did they would want this horrible crueltry stopped but they don't. For one "track supporter" in particular he is only worried where he will be able to adopt a racing greyhound if all the tracks close - not once has he mentioned the numerous greyhounds who die because the industry breeds too many greyhounds and there are not enough homes to put them in. One such "track supporter" only wants to see a waiting list of greyhounds available for adoption, but he doesn't mention how many greyhounds are on the "to be killed list" or how many get loaded into "kill trucks". So I say let them all blow their hot air and we keep fighting to shut down all tracks and as it appears we are winning because greyhound tracks are closing. Together in our fight more tracks will close and than maybe for once in our lifetime not another greyhound will suffer or die needlessly ever again!!

Hmmmm, perhaps both.

Maybe you can point us to a public example of Grey2K saying this? *crickets... *tumbleweeds...

W. Theil, you are way out of touch. It is ignorance such as yours, that helps in the killing of thousands of innocent, healthy greyhounds every year, just because they don't run fast enough. If you did your research, you'd know that the seats at the dog tracks are empty, because people inside are gambling at slots, etc. Research "Decoupling" in Florida, which is now in the midst of passing... so you can go gamble away your hard-earned money any time... just not on this BLOOD SPORT. Grey2K is an amazing organization. When is the last time you volunteered your time for anything? Shame on you.

W. Theil, you are way out of touch. It is ignorance such as yours, that helps in the killing of thousands of innocent, healthy greyhounds every year, just because they don't run fast enough. If you did your research, you'd know that the seats at the dog tracks are empty, because people inside are gambling at slots, etc. Research "Decoupling" in Florida, which is now in the midst of passing... so you can go gamble away your hard-earned money any time... just not on this BLOOD SPORT. Grey2K is an amazing organization. When is the last time you volunteered your time for anything? Shame on you.

Al I want from Grey2K is to eliminate dog racing in the US. I would appreciate any adoption help they can provide but there are many adoption agencies out there. Why keep pounding them on this. What moneymaking part of greyhound racing are you in? Gambler, breeder, track owner. Fess up

Al I want from Grey2K is to eliminate dog racing in the US. I would appreciate any adoption help they can provide but there are many adoption agencies out there. Why keep pounding them on this. What moneymaking part of greyhound racing are you in? Gambler, breeder, track owner. Fess up

Don't talk bullshit.

Visit your local greyhound track. Make a few bets, and check into adopting a retired racer from a track approved adoption group.

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that greyhound breeders like yourself would politicize this effort to help adoption. Greyhound adoption should be a place where all sides of the dog racing debate set aside their differences and work together. But you can't pass up an opportunity to politicize this issue, and promote greyhound racing, can you? It certainly tells us where your priorities are.

Nothing should surprise disgusting individuals like yourself and Mrs. Dorchak. You have no desire whatsoever to set aside differences and work together. That has NEVER been an objective of your radical animals rights group. You have the audacity to make such a ridiculous statement, when all you do is lie about and misrepresent greyhound racing. Let me ask you, Carey: When is your organization going to comment on the racist and anti-Semitic comments made by one of your board members? Your silence on this issue leads the public to believe that you condone such statements. What action have you taken against the offending board member?

Perhaps I should refresh your memory - Grey2k USA board member Karyn Zoldan posted on the Grey2k USA Facebook page: "Educated white people don't go to bed on the dogs". On the same Facebook page, she also compared greyhound kennels to the Nazi death camp Auschwitz. Your silence on this issue leads people to believe that you agree with and condone Ms. Zoldan's statements.

Sorry, the quote about educated white people should read "Educated white people don't go to BET on the dogs".

You are referring to one stupid Facebook comment that was removed from our Facebook page within minutes, and was made by someone who does not speak for GREY2K USA. By contrast, dog racing supporters threaten lawmakers, make jokes about a near-fatal accident our President fortunately survived, and intimidate greyhound adoption groups who speak up for the dogs. Your comments here provide even more evidence of the ugly way greyhound breeders are trying to defend their cruelty.

Wrong again, Carey. That comment was made by a board member of Grey2k USA. As a board member, she speaks for your organization. Again, your ignorance about the comment leads us to believe that Grey2k condones and endorses comments made by their board members. Thanks for clearing that up.

By the way, Will, your shameless personal attacks are really helping us move up the rankings with this proposal to help greyhounds.

If you want to learn more about Grey2K USA, please visit - http://grey2klies.blogspot.com/. Let me repeat Karyn Zoldan's quote in its entirety.... "Educated, middle class white people don't go to bet on the dogs. That is Skecher's or TGP's (Tucson Greyhound Park) wet dream." That comment implies that only lower class, uneducated people, especially people of color, go to greyhound races and wager. Disgusting! The comment was said by Karyn Zoldan, a Grey2K USA Board of Directors member. Ms. Zoldan followed that comment with another gauche remark comparing a greyhound kennel to the notorious Nazi death camp - Auschwitz. That single comment trivializes the Holocaust and those who suffered through it, not only at Auschwitz, but also at Dachau, Buchenwald, Bergen-Belsen, Treblinka, and all the others. The comments were made on the Grey2K USA Facebook page and they were eventually removed, but there has been no apology forthcoming. The "white people" comment was made the day after the Super Bowl. The Auschwitz comment was made a couple of weeks later on Feb 17. Then, there are the comments of another Grey2K Board of Director, Eric Johnson, who compares greyhounds and greyhound racing to slavery, wife beating, and fraudulent medicine. OK... he has now trivialize domestic violence and slavery..Eric Johnson also bullies a fellow, Rich, online calling him a "moron" and an "idiot". I quote, "No, Rich, I'm referring to a petition. Don't try to join conversations that are over your intelligence level or you look like a moron (in the historical sense)... No, Rich, you still sound like an idiot. And can you even define "lavish"? I'm not interested in debating how much, or how little, the staff at GREY2K USA get paid. If you're concerned, then don't donate to them. Meanwhile, I'll continue to support them with time, effort, and money because the dogs deserve better than racing." Nice huh, calling him an "idiot", a "moron" and "stupid". How offensive can these Grey2K board members get? Who else can they insult and offend? I honestly don't know why people associate with them!

As I said above, you are referring to one stupid Facebook comment that was removed from our Facebook page within minutes, and was made by someone who does not speak for GREY2K USA. Further, we don't even have a board member named "Eric Johnson." I realize you are on here to attack us and defend the cruelty of greyhound racing at any cost, but you might as well at least get your facts straight.

I am sorry, Carey, you are correct. You do not have an Eric Johnson. I used the wrong surname. I meant to say, Eric JACKSON. Mea culpa... Mr. Jackson is responsible for those remarks calling "Rich" a moron, stupid, etc. Eric Jackson is on the Grey2K USA Board of Directors.

why would any person with a sense of respect and decency "Make a few bets?" YOU BET, THEY DIE. Greyhound racing must end!

I think you mean......have selfish desires and hopes of making a little money by exploiting an animal - running at the risk of its own life - then find your conscience and adopt a greyhound...

I'd say visit a greyhound track or kennel and learn the truth for yourself, rather than relying on the propaganda spread by an anti-gambling, animal rights group. They talk about "exploiting the dogs" by making money off of them and that is the very thing that they do... they exploit the dogs by portraying them as objects of pity and line their pockets with a salary taken from donations. What a concept!

Where to begin? GREY2K USA is not an anti-gambling organization. Elaine knows this, but doesn't care that her statement is not true. Further, she knows very well that it would be impossible to have an effective national, non-profit organization without a full-time staff. I earn less than the average American salary, do not own a house and do not own a car. I earn less than half than what the Executive for the National Greyhound Association, who represents greyhound breeders, makes on an annual basis. Elaine knows this too, but again she doesn't care about the truth because her goal here is to defame our organization.

I'm honored that you believe I know so much when I have no knowledge of the salary for the Executive for the NGA or what he/she does or does not own. I have no knowledge as to what you do or do not own. The only knowledge I have is what is available publicly by way of 990 forms, boards of directors that people serve on, past comments, actions, etc. My goal is to get at the truth and to present the truth as it appears to me. There is no intent to defame. If you can point me to facts that disprove what I believe, I will gladly investigate them. However, nothing has been forthcoming to change my opinion. I and others have asked questions which remain unanswered.

That's not true Elaine. You have made one accusation after another, and none of your accusations are based in fact. When I point out one of your accusations is not true, and give you facts, you simply move on to another accusation. The salary for Gary Guccione is directly from the NGA's 990 Form. You know how to find ours, and you can certainly find theirs.

Since you mentioned that the NGA filed 990 forms and because of the quibbling over salaries it was discovered that the NGA salaries for 2010 amounted to $351,984. Total revenue for them was $2,486,363. The salaries for the NGA amounted to 14.2% of the pie. Now then, Grey2K salaries in 2010 were $138,230 and total revenues were $347,309. The salaries for Grey2K amounted to 39.8% of the pie. Further examination shows that Gary Guccione's salary equates to about 4.15% of the total revenues, whereas, husband Carey & wife Christine's salaries equate to about 22.8% of the total revenues. There's the 23% that people are speaking about.

What exactly is your point? The NGA salary numbers are a lower percentage of their overall expenditures because they have so many expenditures and revenues related to the Annual Meets and Auctions. For decades, greyhound breeders have been represented by a full-time professional advocacy organization and a team of professional lobbyists. Now, greyhound advocates have the same thing. We raise far less than the dog racing industry does, and our employees earn much less than the representatives of the dog racing industry, yet we are still making tremendous progress. It's hard to understand your "outrage," when the dog racing industry has a full-time advocacy team, just like ours, for decades, except theirs is much bigger and they pay their employees much more. That's the thing: you really don't care about these issues. You raise them because you don't want to talk about greyhound racing. These false accusations and bizarre conspiracy theories are intentional attempts to distract attention from the debate at hand.

It is understood that Grey2K USA is organized as a 501(c)4 organization, which provides for exemption of civic leagues or organizations that promote social welfare AND/OR for local associations of employees. Under which category is Grey2K USA organized? Does Grey2K promote social welfare or is it a local association of employees?

Oh,and I have been inside several racetrack kennel compounds and seen for myself how these dogs live. They live in cages barely large enough to stand up or turn around, with shredded paper or carpet remnants as bedding. Some dogs are muzzled perpetually, and in one racetrack kennel I saw two dogs living in the same cage. Greyhound racing is cruel and inhumane, and that is one reason why this industry is dying.

Did you report the offenses to the appropriate authorities for that locality? Did you just stay quiet? If you see something wrong, you need to report it. I do and I have no undue influence over anyone or anything. I'm just a normal person with no ties to any group other than an adoption group.

You know very well, Elaine, that under the current law it is not illegal to keep greyhounds in this cruel way. That is why we are working to change the law. Further, the claim that you are just a random person is not true. You regularly comment on various websites that have been created with the singular goal of perpetuating greyhound racing and opposing our efforts to help greyhounds.

The statement "cages barely large enough to stand up or turn around" is nonsense and you know it! Numerous photos from various kennels disprove this time and time again. Why are you still harping on this? I believe shredded paper and/or carpet squares are industry standard - can you imagine trying to keep cushy dog beds clean and sanitary? Why can't you admit that your tired old 8-9-10 year old website propaganda is just that?

GREY2K USA has no position on gambling. We are a non-profit organization that passes laws to protect greyhounds and phase out dog racing. You know this, Elaine, but apparently don't care that your accusations are false.

You mean the ones they don't kill?

You mean the ones they don't kill?

Newspapers will publish information free to non profit groups......why not a campaign in this venue? Maya P

Thanks Maya! GREY2K USA does also advocate for greyhounds in this way.

Newspapers will publish information free to non profit groups......why not a campaign in this venue? Maya P

Newspapers will publish information free to non profit groups......why not a campaign in this venue? Maya P

Newspapers will publish information sent to them without cost for non profit groups. I believe a solid campaign with enough information about the issue would be very worthwhile. Dr. Maya P Scherer

Greyhounds will give you lots of love and affection. They do not like being exploited and mistreated as happens in Greyhound Racing World Wide where the humans involved do not consider Greyhounds are pets for life but a comodity to get rid off when redundant for racing for any reason. I have been involved with Greyhounds as pets since I took on my first redundant racer (Manor Lamp). I now have three redundant Greyhounds living with me who all give me all the love I should need. They like two 20 minute walks a day and the rest of the time they are sleeping. They do expect you to give as much affection back ensuring they have their food and live inside the home in the warmth, they are not outside dogs to be kept in kennels.

Let's do all we can to help the greyhounds! Racing is a cruel, inhumane sport that does not belong in America in the 21st century! Greyhounds are wonderful DOMESTICATED pets that do not deserve to be treated like throw away trash.Jane Haza

Get on topic people. Is it a good idea to post the proposed billboards that do promote greyhound adoption? YES! Put the discussion of the racing yes or no aside; let's talk about the dogs who do not win, who are injured, who are old--they need homes, not death. This idea is about spreading the word that retired racing greyhounds are great pets who need homes.

If you have room in your heart and in your home, please adopt a needy greyhound. So many are waiting for homes right now. Here is just one: http://www.adoptapet.com/pet7036605-ss.html

Greyhounds are wonderful dogs and can make great pets, BUT they are not for everyone. Always do your homework an research before adopting any animal. It needs to be a life long commitment, not a pity adoption.

AGREED! This is supposed to be about helping greyhounds in need of homes. Nothing else matters. If this project can put greyhounds with even a few lucky families, then it is worth all this hate mongering. Congrat's to Grey2K and thanks to everyone who is helping make some of these signs of hope a possibility. Keep voting for the hounds!

Greyhounds are wonderful dogs but they are not for everyone. I hope that people will do their homework and understand adopting is a lifelong commitment to the animal and should not be done out of pity

Adoption of any animal is a long time commitment to an animal "AdoptionAdvocate" and no animals should be adopted out of pity - NOT any breed!! Greyhounds are not for everyone, I agree but these billboards will send a powerful message about the need for adoption - the choice to adopt will still be left up to the persons adopting. But these billboards are a must and need to go up everywhere!! Whether you support greyhound racing, or the racing industry it matters not - finding homes for homeless animals (greyhounds included) that will otherwise die is a very important first priority to me and others as well or at least it should be. ANIMALS ARE FOREVER and adoption is the way to go!!

I vote each day for GREY2K USA and I pray they will win this money - it is for the greyhounds!!

Thanks for your support, couchracers!

KUDOS to "rufoustfirefly: - nicely said!! That is what this topic was suppose to be about - the greyhounds and getting them adopted but too many others decided to use this message board to start their own personal HATE attacks aagainst GREY2K USA!!!!!

thanks for caring and sharing.

Thanks for your support thinkmore!

Dog racing should be stopped , it is cruel and inhumane .Besides it is expliotation and greedy .

Thanks Barbara, for your support!

13 tracks left....this is a great idea! Best of luck!

Thanks rkarooney, for your support!

Wishing Grey2KUSA all the best!

Thanks, highhopes, for your support!

Any chance there was of me or my family ever supporting Grey2k ended years ago when I received an email directly from Christine Dorchak stating that Grey2k is not a rescue and was not responsible for what happened to the dogs in MA if their efforts were successful, but that doubtlessly some actual rescue groups would step up when the time came, as they always do. Seeing that a group with the resources of Grey2k would knowingly focus on ending racing in states with excellent track conditions and adoption rates for the dogs (MA and NH), knowing those dogs would likely make their way to Florida where their chances of adoption dwindled significantly while their chances of being killed went up exponentially told me all I needed to decide that they will never get a cent or a modicum of support for me. Unfortunately, since then, many of the lies I have seen them propagate in their name of their agenda has only reinforced that view.

There are several false statements in your message, stevied12. -- 1. The notion that dog racing in Massachusetts and New Hampshire had "excellent track conditions" is simply not true. For evidence, see http://www.grey2kusa.org/about/fact_sheets.html -- 2. For decades, dogs raced in New England for a short period of time, then were shipped off to racetracks in Florida. Thankfully, that practice ended when greyhound racing was prohibited in Massachusetts and New Hampshire. -- 3. The implication that GREY2K USA does not support greyhound adoption is simply false. We give adoption referrals to groups all over the country, we promote greyhound adoption (like the proposal here) and we contribute directly to adoption groups.

this entire cause is irrelevant to any major social change soooo maybe that's why this is receiving such negativity

Speaking for myself, no.

The negative comments here, jvlthreee, are being posted by dog racing supporters. They have internet talk lists that they use to communicate amongst themselves, and whenever dog racing comes up in a public forum they join the forum so that they can defend greyhound racing and attack humane advocates.

Speaking for myself, I am neither a dog racing support nor someone coming from any internet talk lists. But again, I appreciate the broad brush since you can't comprehend any gray areas.

Carey, don't you dare presume to tell me what is false in my statement. Who are you trying to convince with your agenda-driven response? Unlike you, I still have the email that clearly states the dogs themselves are someone else's problem. Unlike you, I don't consider your group working with a select few anti-racing rescues to be supporting greyhound adoption when many rescues across the US distinctly WILL NOT work with Grey2k because of your policies. As for your bogus fact sheets, that was the OTHER reason I decided to have nothing to do with your group. I have actually BEEN to those tracks, and SEEN the conditions with my own eyes. I have a greyhound sitting beside me that broke his leg in NH and according to your groups propaganda, was euthanized. I guess I've been feeding a ghost all these years. Therefore, I can make up my own mind what is fact, exaggeration, and outright fiction in your so called "fact sheets". Speaking of false statements you claim the practice of shipping dogs to Florida ended when racing ended in MA and NH, but you neglect to mention that the vast majority of dags that were racing at the time ... were shipped to Florida because of YOUR group. MA and NH had 100% adoption rates, Florida does not have anything close. How does it feel to have those dogs' deaths on your conscience? Your group could have DONE SO MUCH MORE to help dogs in MA and NH, but YOU DIDN'T. And nothing you can ever say will put the wool back over my eyes and chance my mind. I just feel bad that all of you refuse to work with all parties involved for the greater good of the dogs.

Stevied12--it's just as you said. The dogs become someone else's problem once Grey2k gets what they wants. I too have seen such emails. One that said that they KNEW dogs would die if the Florida Decoupling passed, but that was ok because passing the bill without protections for current racing dogs would save future dogs. Sorry, I disagree with that sacrifice --and no one will make me change me mind over that.

Just so we are clear, everything I have said comes directly from my personal observations and interactions with others while actively working to adopt out greyhounds and promote greyhound adoptions. I don't need someone else's propaganda to tell me how to think. I also have nothing to do with the racing industry, and have not, and do not bet on the dogs. I am simply a lover of the breed.

You're entitled to your own opinions, stevied12, but you're not entitled to your own facts. For example, your implication that the end of greyhound racing in New Hampshire and Massachusetts somehow harmed dogs is simply not true. According to state records, the vast majority of greyhounds racing in New England found homes after dog racing ended. After Massachusetts citizens overwhelmingly voted to outlaw dog racing, a total of 781 greyhounds were adopted during the final year of racing. That was the highest number on record. Meanwhile, during the same period only 11 dogs died or were euthanized, all from racing injuries. In New Hampshire, 510 greyhounds were adopted during the final year of racing, while only five greyhounds were either euthanized due to racing injuries or died from natural causes. This is a scare tactic that was used (unsuccessfully) in both of those states, and proven to be untrue. Of course, it's not a surprise that dog racing supporters are now trying to use this same scare tactic in Florida, but it just as false now as it was in Massachusetts and New Hampshire.

My own facts? I guess I made this up? http://www.reverejournal.com/2010/10/06/where-have-all-the-racing-dogs-gone-first-they-went-to-florida-now-many-are-back-in-bay-state-3/ I never said dogs were euthanized in MA or NH, I have actually always argued that fewer dogs in NE were euthanized than your group pretended. You can't tell me that you honestly believe no dogs were euathanized in FL that would not have been up north, You can't be that naive. And, AGAIN, I am NOT pro racing, so do not project an agenda onto me to further your own.

Unfortunately, we don't know how many greyhounds die in Florida, stevied12. We have fought for a law to require that this information be reported to the public, but so far have not been able to pass such a law. What I do know, however, is that for decades greyhounds raced in New England for a short period of time, then were shipped off to Florida. That is a practice that was occurring year after year, long before any effort was made to end greyhound racing in New England. In fact, that is one of the reasons why we believe dog racing needed to end here. Today, dog racing has been outlawed in New England and we are no longer participating in this cruel industry. Further, the statistics we do have prove that the vast majority of dogs that stopped racing when dog racing ended in New England were adopted.

Carey, what is the point of your last post? You admit that you don't know how many dogs die in Florida (sadly, nobody does), but you also earlier acknowledged that it is a much higher percentage than those that died in NE. Yet at the same time, your group chose to end racing in NE, which funnels MORE dogs away from a region where track conditions were among the best in the country and dogs got adopted, and into places like JCKC, Mobile and Tuscon where the odds of survival are significantly lower. By your own words, because SOME dogs that raced in NE were sent down south, Grey2K felt that was a compelling reason to focus on NE, thereby ensuring that ALL dogs would be sent down there. Please explain to me how that helps the dogs? I really don't understand the logic of attacking the best because it is politically expedient, rather than attacking the core of the problem. What they did for decades prior in NE is irrelevant to this discussion, and you know it. The situation you are describing was not the case in recent years prior to the closings. Yes, some dogs went to Florida, but by your own admission, a large number were adopted as well.

Our first work to end greyhound racing was in Massachusetts, stevied12, because that is our home state. This effort started as a local effort in Massachusetts to end greyhound racing. Since then, we have become a national non-profit organization working to pass greyhound protection laws all over the country. I agree that Florida has many problems, which is why we are now doing so much work down there. The situation I am describing was absolutely the case in the years prior to dog racing ending. The greyhounds that raced in Massachusetts were (for the most part) not bred in Massachusetts. They were bred in another state, they would come to Massachusetts to race for a short period of time, and then would be shipped off to tracks in other states. That is exactly how the industry functioned right up until dog racing ended.

What protection laws have you passed other than outlawing racing? What official provisions have you put in place to promote adoption? There is FAR more to helping these dogs than ending racing.

Thanks for the question stevied12. I'll give you just a few examples. -- 1. In 2003, we wrote and fought for a law in Massachusetts that created a state-funded greyhound adoption trust fund, the only such fund of its kind in U.S. history. -- 2. In New Hampshire, we passed a law that brought greyhounds back into the state's anti-cruelty law. They had been exempted. -- 3. We supported a law in Florida two years ago that passed, and gave the Division of Pari-Mutuel Wagering the ability to do unannounced kennel inspections for the first time. -- 4. Earlier this year, I testified before the Florida Division of Pari-Mutuel Wagering in favor of stronger welfare regulations. They are going through a rulemaking process right now and will release new rules soon. -- 5. Right now, we are supporting a bill in Kansas to bring greyhounds under the protection of the Pet Protection Act. Right now, they are exempted. We are supporting a change in that law, as is the state Department of Agriculture. Meanwhile, the National Greyhound Association is opposed to the proposal.

Carey, is that the same bill that carried an explicit provision that no pro or anti-racing group shall get any of the money (even though it was largely ignored)? A provision that you yourself called "Clearly Discriminatory"? Why would you write a bill with a provision that hurts your associated groups? In NH, it is my understanding, based on quotes from officers, that even prior to passage of the bill, greyhounds were already protected by the stricter NHR&G commission regulations. If true, that would seem a hollow victory. I am well aware that Grey2K supports many greyhound regulatory laws, which is laudable (I don't dispute your goals, just your methods), but I don't confuse supporting a bill with passing a bill. And for the record, I am not necessarily pro NGA (although if we are being honest with ourselves, none of us would have greyhounds as pets if it weren't for them), but pro greyhound.

Carey, you may also want to know that parts of your site are infected with a virus that tries to infect visitors computers. Several of your news articles tried to infect my PC with the Blackhat SEO virus and AVG is reporting your site as suspicious. You probably want to get that fixed.

You're right, stevied12, that when the adoption trust fund first passed it contained a provision that prevented some adoption groups from receiving funding. That provision was added to the bill at the last minute by dog track lobbyists. However, we fought for years to address that problem, and did eventually fix it by passing another bill to remove the harmful provision. Incidentally, thanks for letting us know about that technical problem. We are fixing that as I write this! Regarding the New Hampshire anti-cruelty law, I strongly disagree that the Pari-Mutuel Commission Rules were stronger. In fact, the tracks operated for several years without any rules at all, because the rules had expired and not been renewed. So I do not believe that statement is accurate.

I have no problem deferring to you on the NH issue, as everything I know about it is second hand.

Stevied12--you are so right! That's the exact same problem that Florida was headed for had the decoupling bill passed. Grey2k pushes for a track to close then leave the mess for the adoption groups to clean up. Grey2k should have a ROCK solid plan for any closures including funding for transport of the dogs to adoption groups further away from tracks. They should have kennel and boarding space lined up to help in the interim of the dogs going to adoption groups all over the US. Grey2k should act as facilitator and coordinator in the event for closures --BUT THEY WON'T. They are too busy taking in donations to use to move onto the enxt trakc they want to close. They are NOT IN IT FOR THE DOGS! They are in it for themselves and their agenda!!!

One agenda item of Grey2k USA is anti-gambling. Carey Theil, co-owner of Grey2k USA is a Member of the Board of Directors at Stop Predatory Gambling.

Hmmmm--that's an very interesting fact considering Carey keeps saying that Grey2k is not anti gambling. Something just isnt jiving with that!

There are so many things that don't jive with this group. Check out some interesting facts about Grey2k USA at http://grey2klies.blogspot.com/.

I'm not an "owner" of anything, BJackson. GREY2K USA is a national non-profit organization that works to pass greyhound protection laws, phase out dog racing, and promote greyhound adoption. Further, GREY2K USA has no position on gambling. You are right that I personally volunteer for several other non-profit organizations. The volunteer work I do in my personal life has no relationship to GREY2K USA. I'm also a fan of the Boston Celtics, and that is similarly irrelevant.

Sorry Carey. You and your wife, Christine Dorchak, own it. You personally own several internet domains related to Grey2k USA (Grey2k does not own them, Carey Theil owns them). You and your wife take a 25% cut of all donations to Grey2k USA. Proceeds of the sales of greyhounds toys and chocolates, as well as flowers and seeds sold on the Grey2k USA web site end up in your pocket. I'm not sure how much money Christine is paid for her "legal counsel". I'm not sure how much money HSUS has stuffed in your pockets. It's a business, Carey. It may be classified as a 501(c)4, but you and your wife and making a nice living with your lies. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck ....

You either don't understand the difference between a company and a non-profit organization, BJackson, or you are intentionally circulating this false statement. Also, the notion that our staff members are paid a percentage of what we raise is simply not true. Further, our President Christine Dorchak receives no compensation whatsoever for legal fees. You can continue circulating these false statements, but it doesn't change the fact that they are not true.

Carey - You seem to have a problem with comprehension. I never said that staff members were paid a percentage of Grey2k USA donations. It's only you and your wife Christine Dorchak that take a percentage of the donations - I believe you were up to 25% as of 2010. I believe that's the maximum for 501(c)4, so I'm sure you'll want to increase your donations and sales of greyhoiund merchandise to increase your cut. Not a bad take for your little scam. You probably have the following quote on your office wall: "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." - Adolph Hitler. Or maybe it's on Grey2k USA board member Karyn Zoldan's wall.

I don't earn a percentage of what GREY2K USA raises, BJackson. Nor does Christine Dorchak. That is simply not true. I earn a modest salary that is about 40% less than the median salary for executive directors of non-profit organizations. As I've said elsewhere, I don't own a car nor do I own a home.

Well Carey, actually you do. You can deny it, and I can understand why you would not want to advertise that fact. But you do. Grey2k USA is a small "non-profit". You would be expected to earn considerably less than the average executive director. This little part-time (at best) enterprise of yours is quite the cash-cow.

I work full time, BJackson. In fact, I work long hours. You can believe whatever you want, though.

Actually, there are two plans in place to help Florida's greyhounds. One coalition was assembled by GREY2K USA and the other effort was put in place by Greyhound Pets of America. I agree with you that dog racing should be phased out in a responsible way. That is why the Greyhound Protection Act in Massachusetts included a 14 month phase out period. In Florida, if the decoupling bill passes, not all racetracks will immediately end racing. A few will, but most of the tracks will either reduce their current racing schedules, or continue racing as they are now. I do believe that when greyhound decoupling passes in Florida, it will cause dog racing to slowly wind down over several years. I know one thing for sure: every year that greyhound racing continues in Florida dogs suffer and die. For details, see http://www.grey2kusa.org/pdf/FLreport.pdf

OMG - you people never quit!!!! You support the racing industry, some of you have vested interests in keeping this dying sport going and many of you seem to care more about the gambling part of the tracks than you do about the greyhounds - WE GET IT!!!!! We also get it that many of you are against GREY2K USA, but other than the fact it is their idea for these billboards what the Hell is there to complain about?? I would think if you love your greyhounds as you claim and you support adoption as you also claim than stop the bitching all ready!!!! Greyhound racing is dying - it is a so-called sport no one is interested in anymore, gambling can continue without the cost of the lives and welfare of the greyhounds and greyhound adoption can be promoted with these billboards so I fail to see what this complaining is all about. All I heard over and over again is your own personal dislike for GREY2K USA - I don't see actual facts to support your claims of wrong doing by GREY2K USA just the fact you people dislike them - OK WE GET IT but give it a rest all ready. Not everyone will agree on everything - that is what makes us all different, that is what makes the world go round. As for not putting the GREY2K USA name on the billboards - why not?? As someone else said when a billboard goes up about cancer The American Cancer Society has its name on the billboard. It is the same with any group, any cause - the names of who came up with the idea for the billboard also lists its names on the billboards so I don't see a problem with GREY2K USA doing the same thing. If that bothers you so much don't read that part of the billboard for God's sake!! I cause not about your personal attacks or personal dislikes on Christine or any one else associated with GREY2K USA - I CARE ONLY ABOUT THE GREYHOUNDS AND THEIR WELFARE. I CARE THE EVEN ONE DEAD GREYHOUND IS MORE DEAD GREYHOUND TOO MANY. I CARE THAT PEOPLE'S EYES HAVE TO BE OPENED TO THE CRUELTRY AT THE TRACKS AND I WANT PEOPLE TO THINK MORE ABOUT ADOPTING - THESE BILLBOARDS WILL DO THAT!! You people are in it for your own agenda, an agenda of hate and from where I am sitting that agenda is not for the greyhounds - that is for sure!!

Then why does Christine Dorchak and Carey Theil have to rely on lies and misinformation to push their agenda? .

couchracers, some of us are speaking out against Grey2k because we agree with you, not because of an agenda.

They're only lies because you don't agree with the statements and because you are addicted to hating anybody who speaks against greyhound racing; especially Grey2K!

@Leave it, I hope that, if it wasn't intentional, you at least understand the irony of your statement.

I believe in Grey2K without reservation. So BOOHOO to the whingers!

Thanks for your support, AaronC!

BRAVO!! You are right. Saving greyhounds is the main point. These billboards will indeed save lives. My latest greyhound alone was raced with adult heartworm and only survived racing because a tendon in his groin snapped, otherwise he would have been raced until his heart would have burst. Also Anyone who thinks that greyhound racing is necessary for greyhounds to continue to exist is just silly. Does the lack of bull baiting mean that bulldogs have become extinct??

None of you "anti GREY2K supporters" are speaking out about anything but your own personal agenda and your own personal attack on GREY2K USA!!!! I see none of you so-called know it all's voicing any good reasons or common sense about anything you have said on this message board so far. All I hear over and over and over again is you do not like GREY2K USA - well, I don't give a damn one way or another who any of who people like or dislike. GREY2K USA is getting it done, maybe not the way you would do it but it is getting done. And as a long as GREY2K USA continues to do it and end greyhound racing one track at a time they WILL ALWAYS HAVE my support. I hope GREY2K USA puts their name all over the billboards - they came up with the idea and they should take the credit. I do not see the lies you all talk about - I see the results and to me that is all that counts. I am addicted to hating no one - I just want greyhound racing everywhere to end and if I chose to support GREY2K USA than that is my choice. If you people can do better for the greyhounds and end this cruel and brutal so-called sport than DO IT!!!!!!!! But as I have said many times before stop bitching and complaining and get off your asses and make a difference. I see no good reason to keep a so-called sport alive that cares nothing aboout the greyhounds and no one is interested in anymore. If you want to gamble - than do it without putting lives at stake. If that makes you think I hate anyone - go ahead but I hate no one - I HATE GREYHOUND RACING!!!! So get a life - let people support what they like and drop it all ready. Because whether any of you track supporters know it or not greyhound racing is dying and it will continue to die so if you are in the industrty I suggest you start looking for another job and stop hating US because we support GREY2K USA 100%!!

None of you "anti GREY2K supporters" are speaking out about anything but your own personal agenda and your own personal attack on GREY2K USA!!!! I see none of you so-called know it all's voicing any good reasons or common sense about anything you have said on this message board so far. All I hear over and over and over again is you do not like GREY2K USA - well, I don't give a damn one way or another who any of who people like or dislike. GREY2K USA is getting it done, maybe not the way you would do it but it is getting done. And as a long as GREY2K USA continues to do it and end greyhound racing one track at a time they WILL ALWAYS HAVE my support. I hope GREY2K USA puts their name all over the billboards - they came up with the idea and they should take the credit. I do not see the lies you all talk about - I see the results and to me that is all that counts. I am addicted to hating no one - I just want greyhound racing everywhere to end and if I chose to support GREY2K USA than that is my choice. If you people can do better for the greyhounds and end this cruel and brutal so-called sport than DO IT!!!!!!!! But as I have said many times before stop bitching and complaining and get off your asses and make a difference. I see no good reason to keep a so-called sport alive that cares nothing aboout the greyhounds and no one is interested in anymore. If you want to gamble - than do it without putting lives at stake. If that makes you think I hate anyone - go ahead but I hate no one - I HATE GREYHOUND RACING!!!! So get a life - let people support what they like and drop it all ready. Because whether any of you track supporters know it or not greyhound racing is dying and it will continue to die so if you are in the industrty I suggest you start looking for another job and stop hating US because we support GREY2K USA 100%!!

And for those who see this as a disgusting attempt by Grey2k to line their pockets with more cash, continue to promote the project to provide textbooks for the book bank program in Haiti (currently #1). Post the link on your walls, and keep directing to the Grey2k Lies pages.

Thanks, "W Theil" for proving that dog racing supporters will oppose an effort to promote greyhound adoption, and put politics ahead of the welfare of the dogs.

We support and promote greyhound adoption. We just don't support hate groups like Grey2k USA, who are trying to put honest, hardworking people out of business.

Why don't you remove the reference to Grey2k USA? Or are you more concerned about donations / money in your pocket than you are greyhound adoption?

What exactly is your point, "W Theil"? Don't you think people have a right to know who is responsible for billboard messages? Are you actually suggesting that when non-profits rent billboard space to (in this case) promote greyhound adoption, they should not disclose that they are responsible for the message?

I made my point. If you can't comprehend a simple paragraph, I'm afraid I can't help you.

If your point is that when non-profits rent billboard space,they shouldn't indicate who is responsible for the message, then we will have to disagree.

I have a dificult time picturing the Heart Association, Cancer Society or the Red Cross funding a billboard program without their names included....for oh so many reasons! There is no need to make an effort to bring about change in silence.

Personally, I love dogs, but educating third world HUMAN children is frankly a better cause than ending greyhound racing.

This proposal would actually promote greyhound adoption, stevied12.

You are right, I mis-typed. It doesn't change my opinion though, even as near and dear to me as adoption is.

I am a foster/adopter of greyhounds here in Michigan. I have personally seen many dogs come up from Florida who are physically and extremely emotionally damaged. I have been following Grey2k for 7 years now. A great deal of what I have seen from them, coincides with what I personally see myself. Thank you so very much Cary and Christine and every other hardworking person at GREY2k for all you do to help these beautiful dogs. I will say again, I LOVE THE BILLBOARD IDEA!!!!! It is AWESOME!!!!!! BTW, Cary, I wouldn't waste your time replying to hateful people who have nothing better to do with their time, but to take away from the helpless to feed their own egotistical agenda. It sickens me to know how many pathetic hate-filled minds are out there. I wish I didn't have to say this stuff, because my mom always taught me that if you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all....But, she also taught me to stand up for the innocent and don't let them be trampled on.

That is exactly why Grey2K was needed. As an organization it could go where adoption could not. It didn't have to brave the thearts to kill the dogs instead of giving them to an anti-racing group...a trend that has once again shown its ugly and simple minded face. They could go into Statehouses and courtrooms and take on this challenge the only way it could ever really be changed; legally. They will always have my vote!

Thanks Leave it, for your support!

Thanks Robin. The evidence is overwhelming that greyhound racing is cruel and inhumane. Regarding these comments, the fact that greyhound breeders are angry at us is proof that we are doing a good job!

Great idea! Thank you Grey2k!

Thanks for your support robin w!

Thanks for all you guys do! I wish for a day when greyhound racing will be a thing of the past. You've got my vote!

Thanks scrappyrat for your support!

My advice to all the supporters of GREY2K USA on this message board and their efforts including this awesome idea of the billboards promoting greyhound adoption PLEASE post it on your Facebook page, share it in emails to all your family and friends, tell anyone you meet about it and ask them all to vote and vote everyday for GREY2K USA. Together we can spread the word and make a difference in the lives of greyhounds everywhere and hopefully soon these billboards will be everywhere in all states!!

Dog racing should be stopped , it is cruel and inhumane .Besides it is expliotation and greedy .

I am horrified by the comments below because 1) they are in some cases inexcusably rude 2) they are not germane to the discussion of the merits of this specific project. I do not give money to Grey2K because I support other charities and I must admit that the allegations of wrong doing are very disconcerting. But even if Carey and Christine are using this nonprofit as a license to print money (which although alleged I seriously doubt) I applaud them for throwing a white-hot spotlight on a practice that must be ended. I don't care if 3 or 30 greyhounds die at a track each week--even one is one too many. These innocent creatures deserve to live the same life other dogs are afforded; there is no reason why breeders can't continue to sell dogs to individuals after all of the racetracks close. As for the argument about Grey2K not helping with adoptions: that's not what they do. Their purpose is to pressure the racetracks to close; there are many adoption organizations around the country that share the responsibility of finding homes for the dogs. I do not consider Grey2K lacking because they don't perform both functions. And finally, a word about the billboard proposal which is the reason for us being on this site: I think this is a fine idea. Just like selling a product or service, the adoption agencies are selling the concept of adopting a dog when it is done racing. As with all advertising, repetition and a variety of exposures is necessary to get the message across. I sincerely hope that this project receives the prize.

I agree no greyhound deaths are acceptable, but what about the thousands of other dogs and cats who die HOURLY at animal control and shelter faciilities? Are they no less worthy? Yes, there are many of greyhound adoption groups around the US and they are smuggling to keep doing what they are doing-finding the dogs good homes. Grey2k takes money away from those groups in my opinion because they are a large organized 504c while the small 503c suffer trying to save actual dogs. I think that's the rub here for some of the food who have commented. As for breeders breeding greyhounds- greyhounds in the US have split into almost 2 different sub breeds, AKC greyhounds and NGA greyhounds. They look different and they have different things that affect them medically. There are very few AKC greyhounds bred in the US. As such, the gene pool is somewhat limited. Guess why happens? Genetic issues come up. NHA racing greyhounds currently have a much larger gene pool so practically no genetic issues arise. Reduce e number of breeders and thus gene pool, increase the number of genetic issues.

Typos: Struggling not smuggling. NGA not NHA.

Good God - you never stop do you "NotGrey2K" ?? I am appalled and totally amazed at your train of thoughts.............you are unbelieveable!!!!!! You are be on words to describe how misguided and totally WRONG you are but if you want to believe such garbage than I guess it is useless trying to get you to open your eyes. Did you know that donkeys fly too and did you know there is swamp land in the middle of NYC up for sale or did you know the Pope is actually Jewish or as someone here wrote - do you believe the Earth is flat?? I bet you believe all that BS and plenty more. I read your posts and after I laughed my butt off I feel very, very sorry for you because you are so out of it - in your own little world where no crueltry ever happens, no murders ever take place and everyone loves everyone - sounds like a nice place to live (probably safer in your own little world) but sadly that world does not exist and it never will. GREYHOUNDS RACE AND MAKE MONEY OR THEY DIE - that is fact!!!!! GREYHOUNDS (the lucky ones) MAKE IT TO ADOPTION BUT SADLY MORE DO NOT - FACT!!!! GREYHOUNDS ARE NOT ALL WELL CARED FOR (although there are many good track owners and handlers out there) SADLY MORE BAD ONES ARE IN THE INDUSTRY than the good one - FACT!!!! GREYHOUNDS WILL CONTINUE TO DIE AS LONG AS GREYHOUND RACING CONTINUES - FACT!!!! Jump abroad again and promote your next series of crap VIEWS to us - I am waiting to see what BS comes out of your mouth next - it will be interesting, stupid too I am sure but none the less interesting and I need some more laughs!!

Your response to NotGrey2k makes absolutely no sense and does not respond to anything they said. I am totally confused as to what your point was except to attack another person! You are just as bad if not worse than NotGrey2k!

KUDOS "demcginnis" - you said things perfectly!! Even one greyhound dying is too much for me too and I too sincerely hope this project recieves the prize and those billboards go up everywhere!!

There are approximately 8,000 racing greyhounds in Florida. If they race for an average of three years (2 to 4 seems common), then about 1/3 of them will be retired each year. That means there are almost 2700 greyhounds needing homes EVERY YEAR. These billboards do a great job of raising awareness of those numbers. And this discussion has raised awareness that greyhounds make great pets. Wherever you live, there is a greyhound adoption group you can work with or support to adopt out these wonderful, loving creatures.

These billboards are a great way to get people to the grey2k usa website (grey$k), make a "donation" and fill the pockets of your bosses (Carey and Christine Dorchak).

Dgross, have you actually read what the billboards are all about? The plan is to have a specific adoption website listed where people can find information on adopting.

It's just further proof, UNMEric, that dog racing supporters will oppose an effort to help greyhound adoption, and put politics before the welfare of the dogs.

Thank you "UNMEric", "rkarooney", "scrappyrat" and all the others because you all realize the amazing work GREY2K USA is doing for the greyhounds. We have to help promote their cause and support them all the way and if we do maybe one day the last greyhound race track will shut down for good and I hope I will see that in my lifetime. Thank you GREY2K USA for everything - keep up the great work you are doing!! As for people like "DGross", "ra144" and "NotGrey2' among others hopefully someday they will wake up and smell the coffee burning before it is too late. BUT PLEASE GREY2K USA do not let these fanasty believers stop you from working to save the greyhounds - the greyhounds need you!!

Thank you "UNMEric", "rkarooney", "scrappyrat" and all the others because you all realize the amazing work GREY2K USA is doing for the greyhounds. We have to help promote their cause and support them all the way and if we do maybe one day the last greyhound race track will shut down for good and I hope I will see that in my lifetime. Thank you GREY2K USA for everything - keep up the great work you are doing!! As for people like "DGross", "ra144" and "NotGrey2' among others hopefully someday they will wake up and smell the coffee burning before it is too late. BUT PLEASE GREY2K USA do not let these fanasty believers stop you from working to save the greyhounds - the greyhounds need you!!

Thank you "UNMEric", "rkarooney", "scrappyrat" and all the others because you all realize the amazing work GREY2K USA is doing for the greyhounds. We have to help promote their cause and support them all the way and if we do maybe one day the last greyhound race track will shut down for good and I hope I will see that in my lifetime. Thank you GREY2K USA for everything - keep up the great work you are doing!! As for people like "DGross", "ra144" and "NotGrey2' among others hopefully someday they will wake up and smell the coffee burning before it is too late. BUT PLEASE GREY2K USA do not let these fanasty believers stop you from working to save the greyhounds - the greyhounds need you!!

I thank Gery2K for allowing me to support such a great cause. Regardless of the politics discussed below, this campaign will help bring awareness to an important cause. I just hope we can help get some of those poor dogs the loving home they deserve.

They already do. Greyhounds have the highest adoption rate of any working animal. Nearly 100%.

Sadly, that isn't true ra144. In fact, we don't know how many greyhounds are being adopted and how many are being killed. See http://blog.grey2kusa.org/2012/01/national-greyhound-association-admits.html

Why would you claim that it isn't true?. Guccione only states that there are no reports available. Please provide the source for your claim that nearly 100% of all greyhounds are not adopted after their racing careers.

I don't even understand your post, ra144. You made a specific claim. Your statement was that "nearly 100%" of greyhounds are adopted. I provided you with evidence that no much statistics exist. You do realize that facts aren't just random statements, but are statements based on verifiable evidence, don't you? You have no evidence for your claim. The fact is, we don't know how many greyhounds are being adopted and how many are being killed, because there are no verifiable national statistics.

Thank you, Carey. You don't know. So, your seemingly factual statement "sadly, that isn't true" is incorrect. Funny you should mention "verifiable evidence", when your web site is filled with lies and misinformation.

I don't know how many greyhounds are killed and how many are adopted, ra144. Neither do you. Now, you can believe that every single greyhound is adopted, "100%" in your words, but your belief does not make it a fact. You can also believe that the earth is flat if you want to. Your belief in a flat earth wouldn't change the fact that the earth is round. Regarding our website, it provides factual evidence about greyhound racing, sourcing the industry itself. See http://www.grey2kusa.org/about/fact_sheets.htmlhttp://www.grey2kusa.org/about/fact_sheets.html

Typical Grey2k Lies / tactics. I never said that adoption was 100%. Another lie by Carey Theil.

This is what you said, ra144: "Greyhounds have the highest adoption rate of any working animal. Nearly 100%." If you think I should have included the word nearly, the fine. What exactly is the source for your claim that "nearly 100%" of racing greyhounds are adopted?

"Nearly 100%", ra144? According to whom? And where can one find the adoption rates of other working animals? I have not been able to find those numbers.

"ra144" come out of your dream world and face life - real life.!!!! Adoption rates are not 100%, thousands of greyhounds are killed every single year because the industry breds more than the adoption groups can find homes for. - FACT!!!! I don't know what is wrong with you or why you chose to live in this fanasty world but it does not exist. Greyhound racing is a business but sadly this business uses LIVE animals and when those animals no longer serve a purpose or do not turn a profit they are killed - FACT!!!! The lucky greyhounds you see are the ones who did get adopted but for every greyhound that did get adopted I bet you 8 or 9, maybe more dies because there were no homes to put them in. Adoption rates are not 100% and never have been. Grow up and see the light - good God your misguided way of thinking and the crap you keep promoting does nothing to help these animals. So PLEASE put your efforts into better use and help the greyhounds but shutting down the remaining tracks forever!!!!

More attacks on posters from couchracers...

Nicely said "madison1" - I do thank GREY2K USA for all they do and continue to do to shut down the greyhound tracks remaining and setting free the last racing greyhounds. These billboards would provide a wonderful message and a MUST NEEDED message. As for those who live in their fanasty worlds - may God have mercy on them. Thank you again for your your comment - it was very well said!!

my dog used to race in FL and was given steroids by her syndicate to enhance her performance. miraculously she didn't get fatally injured or have a heart attack while racing and now she is a great, loving, family dog. this has to stop. casinos can support themselves with non animal forms of gambling.

Leslie, You are so brainwashed by Grey2K that you can't even think for yourself. Do a little research and you will know why your dog was given steroids. It wasn't to enhance her performance. You are making yourself look just as naive as your Grey2K pals and I really don't think you are that dumb.

The common reason for giving steroids to female greyhounds is to keep them from going into heat. There are numerous complications associated with this practice, which is why it was outlawed by South Tucson several years ago. However, the track vet at Tucson Greyhound Park has publicly stated he has no intention of stopping this now illegal activity. It's just another example of what's wrong with the greyhound racing industry.

Did you change your name to Leslie or do you just speak for her? I'm just curious because I don't recall mentioning the name Eric when I replied to her comments. But thanks for educating me professor because I had no idea why females were given steroids. I do have one question for you though Eric...can you tell me what the difference is between a trolley and a train? Thanks in advance.

Sorry Eric, there are no serious adverse affects of using testosterone to suppress estrus in the female dog.

I'm sorry Wayne, but there are serious adverse affects of using testosterone in greyhounds. As you know, testosterone is an anabolic steroid. According to the industry handbook Care of the Racing and Retired Greyhound: "The adverse side effects of male-derived hormonal preparations are increased aggression which can result in fighting during trialing or racing; increased weight due to water retention; occasional loss of vigor; and virilization. The latter is evidenced by vulvar swelling, enlarged protruding reddened clitoris, and a clear to cloudy mucous discharge from the vulva that mats the hairs under the tail where contact is made." You can find this online at http://www.grey2kusa.org/pdf/CareOfTheRacingAndRetiredGreyhoundOnAnabolicSteroids.pdf

Hmmmmmm...I guess this is just another example of a 'few rotten apples' in the greyhound racing industry. This cruelty is global. I'd bet that the people who did this don't/can't/ won't see the problem of what befalls 'unwanted' greyhounds. So, before you say this doesn't happen anymore, think again. http://grai.ie/2012/04/10/racing-greyhounds-killed-and-dumped-in-mass-grave/

The billboard idea is terrific. I love the images. I support the work that grey2usa.org does... The organization and volunteers make a difference in the lives of racing greyhounds. The work the organization has done to end racing and improve the lives of greyhounds is to be commended.

Thank you for your support CTotten!

Greyhounds are wonderful dogs who deserve to be treated as such. Using the comment box to air your personal issues is immature and unnecessary. This is about the GREYHOUNDS!! NOT your personal B.S.

I agree completely Siddy!

I am thrilled by this idea. Floridians are well aware of the horrors that greyhounds suffer at the hands of a money hungry industry that is fueled by profit, and they are all too ready to push to move our state forward, out of the dark ages of using animals as entertainment. Grey2K USA not only works to end racing (which will ultimately save thousands of greyhounds each year), but they also work to support greyhound adoption, both financially and publicly. I know this for a fact, as they have and continue to lend support to the greyhound rescue and adoption group that I volunteer with.

We are honored to support (and contribute to) the greyhound adoption group you work with, greyadvocatemom. Thanks for everything you do for the dogs!

End dog Racing!

End dog Racing!

Torture and killing of these docile and gentle Greyhounds needs to STOP!!! Florida is thee utmost worse!!! These Billboards are a perfect, perfect idea to raise awareness and to promote more rescuing of these amazingly perfect dogs. Yes, Perfect. We need to get rid of this cruelty of dog racing, as if we are barbarians. I absolutely know that the politicians, one day, will come to their senses and realize that the life of these gentle lovable Greyhounds is way beyond the importance of gambling and the money it brings in. My three rescued Greyhounds are worth MORE than ALL the gambling money in the world, and yours will be too if you open your heart and save them from humans who torture them.

I share my home with a retired greyhound and agree people need to open their hearts, if they can adopt a greyhound, you will have the most loving, gentle, docile companion worth way more than a few bucks spent at the track. And, if you are lucky to have access to a large outdoor space to allow your companion off-lease to run at leisure, the joy you both get out of seeing your greyt run freely is immeasurable.

My greyt retired in 2006 at age 5-1/2 after running more than 3 years at a track in MA. Because we walk daily, we have an opportunity to answer questions folks we meet along the way have about greyhounds. The joy they have and my greyt have during these exchanges is wonderful for all partaking.

What a wonderful image! All rescued dogs, like our Hope, are "ambassadogs" for those still suffering at dog tracks. http://www.grey2kusaedu.org/who/office.html#hope